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Nathsamk ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Liverpool ![]() Points: 47 |
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Ha Ha Pirates bar is great, having a cocktail looking over to Albania nothing better even more so when its happy hour...
I love the north of the island and have stayed in most places there, the good thing about Corfu is that it doesnt realy matter where you stay cause if you can, you only need to hire a car for your stay and then the island is yours to find what you want, have a drink in the mountains or find a random bar on the beach for a cool beer with some crispy sardines or even have a laugh and sing all night on the kareoke in a small bar. There is a difference between stag week tourism and tourism to just because you may like a pub quiz or a sing along doesnt mean you cant appreciate the views from the top of Paleo or the coves on the East coast. To the original post Just go to Corfu and you cant be dissapointed. Ive been to some far away places and Ive always said that my perfect holiday with a no limits budjet is Corfu, self catering accomodation and a hire car. Wherever you go enjoy Nath
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Samaras Mcfc ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: United Kingdom ![]() Points: 101 |
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She has Pirates Bar in Roda, business is not very good at the moment, even though she stays open all the year round the locals and ex-pats havent got money to spend, but at least they have the sunshine for a lot of the year.
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GJJW ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Fleetwood ![]() Points: 720 |
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Which bar in Roda does your daughter have?
Hope her business is doing well.
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Samaras Mcfc ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: United Kingdom ![]() Points: 101 |
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Good afternoon to all not a regular poster but have been going to Corfu now for 36 years,so have seen the changes all over. Have stayed reguarly in Benitses and also in Roda where my daughter has a bar with her husband and his family. Personally I would recommend a place close to Corfu town then you have the best of everything, trips out to various places by bus, also plenty of eating places, Greek bars, cafes, shops etc.
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Razaker ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: United Kingdom ![]() Points: 1513 |
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A decent post always goes sideways forwards backwards & in the end we all agree. We love our imput about Corfu because we love the place
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The only differance between me and a madman ;is im not mad,
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Lindybell ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: United Kingdom ![]() Points: 538 |
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Here here! and both have a wonderful holiday and many more to come...
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I just love that Corfu feeling!
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Tfg ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 2013 ![]() Points: 83 |
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This has been a really enjoyeable topic to follow. I too hope Linzechris find it useful and find a place to enjoy for their holiday.
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Elliemay ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Kavadades ![]() Points: 7944 |
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Hi Moyra,
No worries. As I said it's amazing the way topics meander, just as normal conversation does. I too hope Linzechris find somewhere that suits them. Sure that once they do, they will fall in love with this magical isle, as all we have done. x
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Flynnmo ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland ![]() Points: 1616 |
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Many T.O.'s are now only paying if the beds are used, and have also cut the contract period to 2-3 months. One I know of only using apartments for July and August. One telling customers the apartments are fully booked/overbooked, so they must book elsewhere. Pools still need cleaning/chemicals and bars require electricity and staff. Anyway, I'm going to leave it there. I apologise for going off subject, and if I've upset anybody, I'm sorry. I hope the original poster finds a suitable place and has a lovely holiday on our beloved island. Moyra
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Janmanessi ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Greece ![]() Points: 3984 |
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I have friends renting to tour operators who pay more than than thr 3-4 Euros per night quoted, but obviously still low but you have to realise that the commitment contracts run from May- October whether or not the beds are used, so for quite a number of nights they are getting paid but not having any outlay (electricity, laundry etc.). Most places also have a pool and a bar and anticipate making a profit by their guests using their facilities, and it is up to them to make them welcoming so they do so rather than going elsewhere.
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Elliemay ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Kavadades ![]() Points: 7944 |
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Hi,
Well I bet Linzechris is totally confused now. ![]() This topic has gone from recommendations as to what they're criteria were, to people recommending their favourite resorts, whether suitable to the original posters ideals or not. ![]() Now we are on to all sorts of subjects as to who holidays where, who spends, who doesn't, what the apartment owners do or reap. Isn't it amazing how a topic develops just as a normal conversation would.
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Bob and Wendy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 ![]() Points: 3700 |
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With reference to the youth of Greece being over qualified and haveing to leave for work elswhere. Before mass tourism, it was always so, many of my middle aged friends in Corfu went to sea, their wives stayed at home with their mother-in-law, tending the olives etc;
Our immediate neighbours for example, left Corfu as soon as they were married, went to Belgium to work in the coal mines, later on moved back to Athens to work in an industrial plant, before retiring back to Corfu. A common scenario in the past. I agree about the well qualified youth of Corfu for instance, their most probable opportunity will be to move away. But in all probabillity they would'nt want to work in the family business anyway. As for the Eastern European tourists, surely, better them than nobody, regardless of what they may or may not have to spend. Sure they come by coach, stay in full board lodgings, enjoy their holiday on the beach, with a few bevvys after dinner. Good luck to them. Anyway, this is all going slightly off topic, innit? Bob
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Alehouse ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: stockport U.K ![]() Points: 788 |
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A lot of the problems arrived when the EU handed out money to Greece and a lot of the appartment owners didnt use it to improve the appartments and now very few tour opperators go there because lot dont meat there requirements and hence no broucher coverage, but if you know where to look there is plenty of reasonable accomidation avalible.
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Lindybell ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: United Kingdom ![]() Points: 538 |
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I must admit, I think that is funny... how some people live hey!
Going back to the subject of tour operators offering 3 - 4 euros per night for the rooms is a real cheek, however, we have stayed in several S/C places and have asked how much to hire directly from the apartment owners and they say some rediculas price like 350erous per week (I think WHAT? You must be having a geraffe!), I'll stick with the tour operators thank you in that case... for the same apartment £60 ish per person, well thats a no brainer! But if for example the apartment owners said... 200euros a week, still over the price than online but hey ho, I would reaaly like to cut out the middle man, believe me. But until then it's the internet booking for me. It's a shame though, I think they are cutting off there nose to spite there face as to speak. 'Paleo', still my favourite though must say, been to many other places for days away from resort, (always do), there are many nice areas to choose from on the Island. Personal preferance comes into play. |
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I just love that Corfu feeling!
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Razaker ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: United Kingdom ![]() Points: 1513 |
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Dont think any one has slagged off any resorts Flynnmo just promote there favourite resort, I would love to try a differant resort every year but would miss the friends weve made over the years in Sidari. lLst year we were sitting have a cold beverage where a Romainian car packed with a family and a fridge on top drove passed us, I kid you not,
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Flynnmo ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland ![]() Points: 1616 |
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I'd say the Eastern Europeans who have a LOT of money to spend, tend not to go anywhere near the resorts, but rather to villas in the hills, and to pretty exclusive/expensive venues. The others, who do go to the resorts, can't afford to eat/ drink out. This is not a criticism of these people, it is a fact. Good luck to them and I hope they enjoy their holiday, but they don't put much into the local economy. The so called "hippies" of the 60's who slept on the beach etc. were generally middle/upper class young people, having an "adventure" before settling down. Not all, but most. Nobody I knew, for example, could afford to go" travelling". They could barely afford their bus fares to work! When package tours came along, Spain and Italy were the places to go - Greece was still considered exotic and was more expensive. We have been going to Greece for 25 years, at least twice a year, and love it. We now have a holiday home in Corfu and hope to spend more time there once my husband retires. I don't think we have ever set foot in an "English" bar and probably never will. If those who do are putting money into the local economy, good luck to them too. To each their own. Last year the tour companies were offering owners 3 - 4 euros per night. It wouldn't even cover the electricity! How can that possibly be justified? Some refused and are now going private via the internet. Hopefully they will be successful and pave the way for a new wave of visitors to Corfu.
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Rocdoc ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: lowestoft ![]() Points: 1125 |
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Well said Flynnmo, there are increasing numbers of Eastern Europeans travelling to Greece. I have spoken to people in Lesvos, Thassos, Crete and Kalymnos who all welcome new visitors but are dismayed at how little they spend in the resorts, tavernas and bars. It may well be that while they have the income to get to the destinations they find the cost of living so high they simply cannot afford to use the local businesses.
They are probably sold Greece as a cheap destination, and we all know that belongs in a time gone by. That said many of us will continue to travel to Greece whatever the cost, the pound sinking like a stone is not helping though.
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Janmanessi ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Greece ![]() Points: 3984 |
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The eastern Europeans may not all have money to throw around and so self cater- although some have a LOT of money and enjoy spending it, but the first British tourists in the 60s were not all millionaires, they slept on the beach, etc. Those 'hippies' are now older people with money to spend, many of them...it is short sighted to dismiss them because of the amount of Euros in their pockets today, welcome them and they will come back when they have more money- and good memories!
Also why would they eat out in many places- they don't want English breakfasts etc. which are aimed at just one portion of the market, they probably don't feel comfortable in an English style bar either, what they do want, thankfully, is to be in Greece- and it is on this that tourism should be capitalising. There are few property owners who were encouraged to build in the early days who have anyone but themselves to blame...tour companies in general advanced the money to build, admittedly to their specifications, in return for which they had the property for their exclusive use for a number of years paying a very small amount of rent. The tour company was paid off within 10 years which was the limit of many contracts, after which time the property was unencumbered and the owner could rent to whoever he chose to. Sadly many people did not reinvest any of their income in their properties as they thought the good days would never end! If they had husbanded the money that came very easily years ago many would not be in the state they are in now.
Of course the younger generation have many more opportunities than their parents. I just hope that those who want to can use their qualifications so hard earned, abroad if they so choose, leaving those who WANT to work in tourism to do so, rather than going into the family bar, taverna or whatever without any real appetite to do so. |
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Flynnmo ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland ![]() Points: 1616 |
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Talking to our Greek friends who have businesses there, the Eastern Europeans tend to ACTUALLY self cater, and spend very little money in the resorts. As someone else pointed out, everywhere has changed from when we first went to Corfu. There were very little prospects, other than working in the family business/smallholding, for the young people. Tourism brought much needed money into the island and enabled the youngsters to have a better education than their parents had ever dreamed of. The result is the youngsters now are usually overqualified and want to move away from the island, to pursue their interests/vocations. The tour companies encouraged owners to build/expand, then pulled out!, leaving the owners with mortgages for buildings they had no customers to fill. There are many reasons for the position the island finds itself in now. The challenge is to find a way out of this situation.
A good start might be to stop slagging off resorts. Horses for courses! What suits me will not suit others and vice versa. BE NICE. If you've nothing good to say,say nothing. |
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Bev D ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: United Kingdom ![]() Points: 84 |
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Being a person who recommended Roda because to me it mostly fits the criteria that was asked for, I also have to agree with the forum members who have just posted. I was disappointed on my first visit with the number of English style pubs there and the majority of Tavernas selling British staples. Roda worked it's magic and this year will be 8th year there. We mostly avoid the very British pubs and spend our days walking or hiring a car to discover the island, or go to Corfu Town on the local bus. There has been an increase of other nationalities in the last couple of years which has to be a blessing. There is also a couple of businesses opening promising pure Greek food and music, (thank goodness). What everyone has to remember, Corfu tourism was built on the British tourist and without the families returning year in year out Corfu could be in worse straits. Also what about all the Brits who have relocated to Corfu and the women who have married Corfiot men. I love Roda and Corfu.
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