I've just seen the latest webcam picture and there is a guy sitting in the restaurant without a shirt! I hope he was told to dress properly before he was served!
Message posted by parkites on 08 July 2010 at 4:37pm - IP Logged
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I agree surely he could have put a teeshirt on just to go for lunch. Im no prude but it dosent look very nice at all.
If hes on the beech or pool thats fine.
sue
Message posted by SusieM on 08 July 2010 at 4:41pm - IP Logged
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I would not comment on the right or wrongs of what someone else does but I always put a shirt or t-shirt on when entering a taverna. I consider it good manners.
Message posted by littleh on 08 July 2010 at 8:12pm - IP Logged
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I have been brought up with good table manners and surely if you havent it is logical that no one wants to sit and eat a nice meal looking at a hot sweaty (probably over weight body).
I think you owe the restaurant owner some respect and think it only polite to shower and change before sitting down for a meal,if possible.
I dont know about the comment "you should get out more" i personally hope these folks "stay in more" !!
Message posted by shakespearstar on 08 July 2010 at 8:29pm - IP Logged
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This has just reminded me of an afternoon in the middle of Gaios on Paxos.
We sat down to lunch and watched people walking back and fro all rather hot and all in different attire. Suddenly my eyes popped and I couldn't help but say, " Good God! Fancy walking down the road like that!" Hubby turned and looked but never said a word. She was about 20+ and had on the smallest thong I have ever seen. Call me a prude but thongs are great on the beach but not walking down the middle of the road!! Hubby like most men no doubt wasn't complaining very much I noticed!
Message posted by windmill on 08 July 2010 at 8:37pm - IP Logged
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Get the same here in Cornwall. Walk round town 1/2 naked (usually big fat guys with the body stuff and metal everywhere). Beach is the place if you want to strip off. Don't agree with this? Then you obviously should stay in more not go out.
Message posted by shakespearstar on 08 July 2010 at 9:01pm - IP Logged
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I don't know about that, Shakespearstar, but it's interesting and, in my own opinion, a good thing that Salou in Spain have pledged to fine shirt-less and bikini-clad tourists in the streets and in restaurants. The mayor was recently quoted as saying: "We want to ensure that Salou has a good image".
Message posted by Scotia Yannis on 08 July 2010 at 9:53pm - IP Logged
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Sorry guys I support BoltonLinda, get a life if sitting next to someone on holiday in a Greek taverna who is not wearing a top causes problems even if they are fat or thin then great stuff you have no worries. I like many others wonder how many men would complain if it was a beautiful woman.
There are many problems in Greece and here in the UK that deserve comment I am of the opinion that this does not
Live and let live and enjoy Corfu topless if this is your fancy.
PS might even go topless this year myself.
Message posted by stripe on 08 July 2010 at 10:14pm - IP Logged
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I guess from the previous comments that there are mixed opinions in this, I however fall into "it's not polite" category. If I owned a taverna/restaurant then I would insist that customers covered up. I know everyone deserves a holiday but a bit of respect for others never goes amiss in my book.
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Quote: Originally posted by shakespearstar on 08 July 2010
This has just reminded me of an afternoon in the middle of Gaios on Paxos.
We sat down to lunch and watched people walking back and fro all rather hot and all in different attire. Suddenly my eyes popped and I couldn't help but say, " Good God! Fancy walking down the road like that!" Hubby turned and looked but never said a word. She was about 20+ and had on the smallest thong I have ever seen. Call me a prude but thongs are great on the beach but not walking down the middle of the road!! Hubby like most men no doubt wasn't complaining very much I noticed!
This post is useless without pictures
Message posted by Gerry Snr on 08 July 2010 at 10:28pm - IP Logged
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One of the reasons I love Greece and Corfu is that no dress code is required at a beach taverna, the chairs are not upholstered in ornate fabrics! So no suntan oil is transferred to the fabric.
People are popping in for a bit of lunch or a drink, most ladies cover their legs with a sarong, no one seems to mind if their bikini tops are on view!
What are men supposed to wear under the same circumstances? A Caftan perhaps! I think not.
Most eating places don't require a dress code, men and ladies wearing shorts are acceptable unless in a very high class establishment of an evening
As long as a man is wearing shorts with a pocket that holds his wallet, I'm sure he'll be welcomed with open arms
When all said and done, the shirtless man is on holiday and is chilling out, a few weeks out of the year where dress code is not the most important thing on his mind and he does not have to conform!
Message posted by Viv D on 08 July 2010 at 11:20pm - IP Logged
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No kidding there are mixed opinions--even within families!
Our compromise is, in the daytime at a beach taverna, my husband goes shirtless as is his strong preference. In fancier establishments, or anywhere after about 7 pm, he puts on a tee shirt.
I remember my surprise on my first visit to Greece when I went out on his parents balcony in Athens after siesta, and saw men relaxing on their balconies in their undershorts.
Love the signature, Viv.
Message posted by Avva mou on 09 July 2010 at 12:51am - IP Logged
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On our first visit to Corfu my husband put his t-shirt on prior to walking in a bar at lunchtime, the bar man told him there was no need as he was on holiday. Hubby will always cover up if going into bar/taverna/on a bus, his preference. I am probably not that bothered what men do. If the Greeks are not bothered why should we impose our preferences.
Message posted by elizajay (Moderator) on 09 July 2010 at 1:04am - IP Logged
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I am with you Avva Mou, my husband is of 'the old school' and will always put his t shirt on when approaching a bar or taverna table to eat or drink...his reason being...'HYGIENE' which hasnt yet been mentioned...
In high temps, most men 'sweat' ptofuseley...I am not too fussed at having that dripping all over the bar or indeed the tables....a little shirt or t-shirt does mop that up somewhat...
Not meaning that to sound stuffy or old fashioned. Just considerate to other diners...
xxx
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Personally I think it is a shame that the people who expose most are usually those who should hide most!
Learning to drive in Corfu the best thing was not having to squeeze onto a crowded bus next to someone without a shirt on who was covered in suntan oil!
The people who hire scooters and go round in swimming things on them risk horrid injuries from gravel grazes to sensitive parts which can spoil their holiday, and their tan.
Bank staff, shop assistants etc. all dress appropriately, and I think it shows a lack of respect to the local people to go round Corfu Town without a tee-shirt.
So all in all- yes, go topless on the beach or in a poolside or beach taverna at lunchtime, but think of your fellow human beings away from those places- how many of us would really like to have to look at ourselves semi-naked?
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I am with you Avva Mou, my husband is of 'the old school' and will always put his t shirt on when approaching a bar or taverna table to eat or drink...his reason being...'HYGIENE' which hasnt yet been mentioned...
In high temps, most men 'sweat' ptofuseley...I am not too fussed at having that dripping all over the bar or indeed the tables....a little shirt or t-shirt does mop that up somewhat...
Not meaning that to sound stuffy or old fashioned. Just considerate to other diners...
xxx
What!!! most men "sweat" profuseley...don't women? (this'll get em going) & what about the chef's & kitchen staff standing over your loveley food whilst roasting away in a very hot kitchen...lol, drip, drip, drip!!!!
I'm with Maggy, Ava Mou & the rest...let men be men it's only two weeks of the year!
Message posted by Viv D on 09 July 2010 at 9:48am - IP Logged
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We have had a go at the men - but ladies all though the saying goes
that women glow - men perspire - horses sweat.
I always put on either a beach kaftan or T-Shirt and wrap around skirt when I am sitting down lunch time to eat and other half puts his t-shirt on. After all I have suntan lotion on my body and if by the beach also sand that I may have missed and not washed off and I could also be glowing in the heat of the day.
So lets be fair to them - they may be in a suit and tie 50 weeks a year or a uniform and it is like throwing of all that work stress and that includes the suits, uniforms etc so that they can relax and enjoy there holiday as well.
I remember my Father sitting on a beach in Guernsey - now he was in uniform all year and even our two week holiday he used to sit on the beach with a shirt and tie on - never see him in shorts or swimming the most he put on was sun glasses.
Viv
Message posted by C4owner on 09 July 2010 at 10:29am - IP Logged
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Personally, I always put a shirt/T shirt on when going inside any establishment, be it a shop, taverna, etc.
By the pool, on the beach, at a poolside bar, I have no problem being in shorts, but I simply wouldn't ever consider going into any where on holiday without covering up.
It is a matter of respect to others and safer in a taverna/restaurant to. Ever had someone accidently spill hot food on you?
You wouldn't consider going into a bar or restaurant at home, (you would probably be asked to cover up or leave anyway) so why is it deemed acceptable to some, to do it on holiday?
Message posted by maggy on 09 July 2010 at 11:35am - IP Logged
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Some circumstances are different and more acceptable!
A pool bar or beach taverna to my mind is OK for the shirtless man, I doubt if he'd drip sweat all over me as he would be sitting with his own party, if he was going to drip it would be on them!
Another example of the shirtless man ---is in a resort, a child on his shoulders,pushing it's buggy loaded up with all kinds of beach gear, he's off to the beach! Fine!
Be honest now---how many of us have sat in the shade of a beach taverna people watching?
The antics of all shapes and sizes of people, male and female, shirtless, topless or even naked, might have become a topic of conversation or kept us entertained without them being aware of it!
Once they set foot in the taverna does our attitude change, I think it does!
An entirely different situation is the half clothed male or female on a bus,I would prefer not to sit next to a shirt less man, as I would not want any contact with him that might mean I get stuck to him
A man sitting next to a scantily dressed female, I doubt would object, providing she was gorgeous and a body that was the envy of every female aboard the bus!
Banks and other establishments are another matter, yes, I think they should cover up!
The thread started with a shirtless man in a beach taverna, my thoughts on the matter is live and let live
What I do dislike is---
Ladies swimming in an accomadation pool topless!
But living in a world where anything goes, who am I to object
Message posted by emmaloub on 09 July 2010 at 11:43am - IP Logged
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I think I'm a bit old school on this one - but I know anything goes on holiday. I will always cover up to eat or if we go for a walk or to the shop and hubby always puts on a t shirt - only polite and really I don't want to look at a semi-naked man over lunch - might put me off!
But then if I had a gorgeous body and was 20 years younger I might show it off a bit more! Wobbly flesh is ok when you're lying down, but not moving!
In my 20s I did go topless - but it was all the rage then and I looked a lot better!
Message posted by Vaughan on 09 July 2010 at 11:57am - IP Logged
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It's not just bad etiquette, it's unhygienic and selfish. I can ignore it but it makes my wife very angry when men wonder round supermarkets or restaurants without a shirt.
I don't think anyone means offence, some people just don't think or simply don't consider others but it's a small offence in the world we live in isn't it.
Message posted by chrisuk on 09 July 2010 at 12:26pm - IP Logged
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Chrisuk I dont think etiquette will play a huge role this year!! He wont be the first nor the last.
You're probably right. But don't you think that's sad? Whatever happened to good manners and consideration for others? Even if I had a fantastic body I wouldn't dream of walking into any eating establishment without covering up first.
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Quote: Originally posted by elizajay on 09 July 2010
I am with you Avva Mou, my husband is of 'the old school' and will always put his t shirt on when approaching a bar or taverna table to eat or drink...his reason being...'HYGIENE' which hasnt yet been mentioned...
In high temps, most men 'sweat' ptofuseley...I am not too fussed at having that dripping all over the bar or indeed the tables....a little shirt or t-shirt does mop that up somewhat...
Not meaning that to sound stuffy or old fashioned. Just considerate to other diners...
xxx
What!!! most men "sweat" profuseley...don't women? (this'll get em going) & what about the chef's & kitchen staff standing over your loveley food whilst roasting away in a very hot kitchen...lol, drip, drip, drip!!!!
I'm with Maggy, Ava Mou & the rest...let men be men it's only two weeks of the year!
I have never yet sat next to a woman at the bar in a baeachside taverna, where sweat was literally dripping from under the armpits on to the bar counter....yet I have unfortunately sat next to a man who was 'leaking' in such a manner all over the bar ... not one of my most pleasant holiday memories I can tell you!
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I am with you Avva Mou, my husband is of 'the old school' and will always put his t shirt on when approaching a bar or taverna table to eat or drink...his reason being...'HYGIENE' which hasnt yet been mentioned...
In high temps, most men 'sweat' ptofuseley...I am not too fussed at having that dripping all over the bar or indeed the tables....a little shirt or t-shirt does mop that up somewhat...
Not meaning that to sound stuffy or old fashioned. Just considerate to other diners...
xxx
What!!! most men "sweat" profuseley...don't women? (this'll get em going) & what about the chef's & kitchen staff standing over your loveley food whilst roasting away in a very hot kitchen...lol, drip, drip, drip!!!!
I'm with Maggy, Ava Mou & the rest...let men be men it's only two weeks of the year!
I have never yet sat next to a woman at the bar in a baeachside taverna, where sweat was literally dripping from under the armpits on to the bar counter......yet i have unfortunately sat next to a man who was 'leaking' in such a manner all over the bar ........ not one of my most pleasant holiday memories I can tell you!
You've not seen some of the women that I have then!! & while we're on the subject why should us men be faced with topless women with droopy bits that are not nice to look at no matter what time of day/place we are at...lol (sorry couldn't resist)!!!
Message posted by Gerry P on 09 July 2010 at 3:22pm - IP Logged
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The Greeks themselves don't do it neither do most other nationalities. It's mainly a Brit thing. Sums up the lack of consideration many people now have in UK.
Message posted by dazzalad on 09 July 2010 at 4:36pm - IP Logged
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Why do the Brits get targeted in every post by someone? When we went to Fuerteventura all the Germans where walking around stark naked (men & women). I'm proud to be British & I'm proud that every year when we go to Corfu we hand over more than 2,000 Euros (on top of cost of holiday) to local businesses who without the BRITS would probably not survive. This started of as a post about someone not wearing a shirt in a beachfront taverna on holiday being viewed via a webcam by someone probably in Britain....SO WHAT!
Message posted by SusieH on 09 July 2010 at 4:51pm - IP Logged
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At least British ladies make sure that they don't have any underarm hair, now that, I would consider to be a hygiene problem! Not only for it's owner but for anyone else in close proximity
Give me a shirtless man any day
Message posted by Gerry P on 09 July 2010 at 5:25pm - IP Logged
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Each to his own
When people are on holiday they want to enjoy themselves
I don't particularly like men in a resataurant without shirts, but I don't let it spoil my meal. Live and let live.
If the taverna owner is happy.. then it's okay
xx
Message posted by Avva mou on 09 July 2010 at 7:37pm - IP Logged
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P.S. look at the web cam now, what more can I/we say boys and girls?
Gerry
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Now that puts a hole new slant on things, great:-)
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P.S. look at the web cam now, what more can I/we say boys and girls?
Gerry
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Now that puts a hole new slant on things, great:-)
Hahahaha!
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