John, don't hold your breath. We were told 4 years ago that the money was there to put plaka through the village and the council was going to replace the water pipes with plastic ones before this happened. Still waiting!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by Ray and Gisela on 29 January 2010
Hi nefeli
Please look at the roads one year on
But all ways look on the bright side of life.
Ray.
Ray is so right. Work on the road between Almeros and Roda (including the length of Acharavi), was started some 16 months ago and still remains unfinished. Currently, apart from the numerous pot holes, uneven surfaces, traffic cones and temporary sign posts there is little sign of activity and no indication that it will be done before the 2010 season begins. Unfortunately, whatever the reason, the local government doesn't seem to have the money to finish these projects.
As an aside - please, please, when driving in the area of Roda crossroads, do be careful and don't travel at excessive speeds (the road is straight and wide, which encourages a bit of pedal pressing). A couple of weeks ago we saw yet another fatal accident there. To my knowledge at least the 5th in 3 years.
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Quote: Originally posted by Ray and Gisela on 29 January 2010
Hi nefeli
Please look at the roads one year on
But all ways look on the bright side of life.
Ray.
Quote: local government doesn't seem to have the money to finish these projects.
The road straightening project in Roda is funded by the Prefecture of Corfu and is planned to be completed in about two months. It started on time and all the premises affected have started playing their parts in the scheme. The drainage scheme is mostly funded by the EU and is planned to take two years. There was no way that it could be completed in one winter, hence the 'ongoing' aspect of the project. This is not uniquely Greek and happens to the best-planned works all over the world, especially where inclement weather plays a part. The alternative to delaying completion because of inadequate funds is to borrow the money at excessive rates from those who are geared up to take advantage of such situations - I think they are called bankers! The folly of so doing has been clearly demonstrated by the UK government over the last few years. The choice is:- holes in the road, or national debt - which would you prefer?
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One point have a look at how high the kerb stones are as to the leavell of the floor of sum of the restaunts schould be fun in the winter when it is raining cats and dogs.
Ray.
There is a plastic drainage pipe now installed on the inside of the pavement, with inlets every so often which will presumably drain the surface water from the pavement itself.
Steve
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You asked how long I've been coming to Corfu (Roda)...since 1988, have only missed twice in 22 years. I don't just sit here in Bolton...and you want to see the state of some of the roads here!!!
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The road works in Kassiopi ran over into the start of the season not to long ago, but didn't appear to cause too many problems.
If it ran on through the main season then that would be different, but it's surprising how quickly these things get done once the season starts.
Quite right too! It will be a struggle to hit the deadline in Roda of 26th April but it won't be far out. Some of the concreting is finished and the first of the paving is now on sight as is the tarmac layer. The drainage scheme is altogether different - it is funded differently and has not continued this year at all. It will not affecting the village this season. Ray, you sound a bit like the sales prevention officer! As for Casanova's Bar in the old village, the new owner is here and she will be opening as soon as she can. Let's hope we can all support her.
Steve
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Best of luck to all then Steve.
What started as a bit of fun as to when Roda will get its new pavement has turned round on me as the bad guy.
I hope all gowes well for all.
Ray.
Message posted by turnups on 22 April 2010 at 3:25pm - IP Logged
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Yep lets hope Casanovas survives another summer. Good luck Steve & Lisa for the summer what ever you are doing
we'll be over in 2 weeks time, hope to catch up with you then
Keith & Liz
Message posted by maggy on 22 April 2010 at 6:45pm - IP Logged
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I went to Roda today. Not much seems to have changed since I last went 3 weeks ago. Same big piles of sand and ballast, same pallets making temporary walkways up to the bars and shops. On the stretch of road I travelled I saw numerous large yellow heavy plant vehicles - all stationery; 12 workmen of which 3 were working, the other 9 were standing around talking and having a smoke. Only big difference was a handful of tourists picking their way along the road...
Can't see the deadline being met somehow, although stranger things have happened - after all the 2004 Athens Olympic Stadium was completed on time, but with only seconds to spare.
I don't think Ray's comments (and by the way, he's definitely a glass half full sort of guy, contrary to other's suggestions) will do any damage to tourism in the resort this summer, although the state of the village itself might.
Message posted by Ray and Gisela on 23 April 2010 at 10:40pm - IP Logged
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Thanks Bill
Steve and his couterpart think I was getting at Roda but never mind as you say better late than never.
I will see in August weather thay are further along.
Turnups I have not met the new Lady that took over so as to news when thay might open you will have to weight.
Maybe Steve with all his (no all) could inliten us.
But do not hold your breth it might take as long as the pavement.
Ray.
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Ray, I don't know about you being a bad guy but you do seem to be a bit negative about the area you live in. It may have been a bit of fun but unfortunately your early posts do not read like that, quite the opposite. I suspect that there will be progress by August despite the fact that 75% of the work force appear to be smokers!! Do I detect a sense of forum wars on this thread?
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Quote: Originally posted by smg on 24 April 2010
Ray, I don't know about you being a bad guy but you do seem to be a bit negative about the area you live in. It may have been a bit of fun but unfortunately your early posts do not read like that, quite the opposite. I suspect that there will be progress by August despite the fact that 75% of the work force appear to be smokers!! Do I detect a sense of forum wars on this thread?
Oh come on, give Ray a break. He's not being negative, merely a realist who is saying on this forum what many of the local businesses in Roda have been saying to each other and the authorities for a while now.
If it is not cleared soon it could spell disaster for many more of the businesses in Roda that rely on tourism - quite a few have already surcumbed for various reasons. It would be a great shame if the whole of this little seaside resort, and all those who rely on it for an income, were to suffer because of it.
Also, it's worth remembering that the local populace have had to live with it all winter... as it did last winter when sections of that same road were being dug up for other reasons, so it's not entirely surprising that some are just a tinsy bit short of humour on the subject now.
I sincerely hope that no one's holiday will be adversely affected by these works,and that Roda's many officionados will continue to visit the resort this year and in the future.
Message posted by Ray and Gisela on 24 April 2010 at 4:32pm - IP Logged
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I think when you have lived on Corfu for some time you cannot help but become a little cynical like Ray and others (myself and my husband included), he must have lived here some time to understand the reality of living in Corfu. Of course now that we have gone down the IMF route things will get far worse for this country. This is not looking at things through a 'half empty glass' but understanding the reality of the situation in Greece in general. As for tourism this year it was mentioned on the news last night that there have been thousands of cancellations from tour operators. But from their perspective would you want to send people to a country where there are numerous strikes and the country is on the verge of bankruptcy? Just think of the compensation claims from customers who's holidays had been disrupted as a result of these strikes. People look at things from a different perspective when here on holiday, believe me the reality of living here is very different.
Message posted by artisans on 24 April 2010 at 8:19pm - IP Logged
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The pavement in Roda cannot possibly be finished by the 26th April as planned although they were steaming ahead today to get more of the concreting finished. The big piles of sand are not the same as three weeks ago, they have all arrived in the last few days and they are being used as we speak. This thread was picked up by Ray and it certainly comes over as a serious complaint, not a bit of fun. If that is your intention, Ray, then it’s time to rephrase your comments. This country, with its numerous strikes (democracy!), and on the verge of bankruptcy (better position than the UK), is the country we have all chosen to holiday in or to live in. Why can we not give it more support? All the locals (Greek) who I have spoken to, totally support, and are excited by, the new infrastructure, and the only criticisms I have detected come from ex-pats. Perhaps they are all in the wrong country! Ray is not being a realist, he is being negative, a ‘sport’ that many ex-pats seem to thrive on in the absence of anything better to do. I am sure that he will be very disappointed when he returns in August.
Steve
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Thats the point Steve
You do not read my posts
Gisela and I live heir full time we have retired heir for good or bad and will not gust be cumming back in August as you put down.And We are not ex-Pats. as to the Greeks that I have spoken to thay are not happy about the progress.
We have nothink to gaine or for that matter to loose in this matter.
The first post was Roda gets a new face lift, to be compleated in Two mounths, I sed no way and counted the Mounths away.
You then took it apon your self to call me negertive in my coments that was not about Roda but about Me.
We all no that it will not be compleated by the 26th when do you think it will be, put a date down Steve if you are so posertive a person.
As I have pointed out I am not gowing to get into a slanging match over this.
I would gust like fore the sake of the Hotels Bars and resterants that it gets compleated soon.
Then Roda site might be Happy.
Ray.
Message posted by windmill on 24 April 2010 at 9:32pm - IP Logged
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Cannot believe that a bit of " pavement " can provoke such posts. Here in Cornwall the County Council claim we need 4.5 milliom pounds to repair roads after the harsh winter and have been granted 1.5 million. Even without the repairs we still have some of the best surfaced roads in UK,. As for actual pavements in my local area which is a big tourist region, we have vitually none. Makes no difference, everyone gets about safely,
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I have to say that Ray is being realistic, unlike others. How can anyone say 'and on the verge of bankruptcy (better position than the UK), when the UK is rated 3 star and Greece is rated as bancrupt. UK pays 1.5% and Greece has to pay 10% on a loan which is more than double the GDP of UK loan, unless the IMF helps them. Some people just ty to convince themself. How they do this when it's on the news every night I don't know but at least Ray is trying to change things and make them better. Others seem to bury their head in the sand. Don't want to cause an aurgument but Greece has to change or go under.
Message posted by maggy on 24 April 2010 at 10:12pm - IP Logged
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Ray has a right to voice his opinion/ concerns, that's democracy! Just because one doesn't like the message there is no need to shoot the messenger down in flames.
Some posters have the ability to be more eloquent in their postings, some do not, through no fault of their own!
May I suggest a little empathy and re read what Ray actually wrote!
No! I don't know Ray!
Message posted by Bill on 24 April 2010 at 10:34pm - IP Logged
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Greece, or more correctly the people of Greece, are notorious for not doing things on time. Part of the beauty of the place is that old adage that there is 'real time' and then there is 'Greek time' (aka 'maybe time'). Greece is the perfect holiday destination for anyone looking to unwind because they are forced to slow down and take things as they come.
When you have lived on Corfu as long as Ray (yes, he lives here 24/7 - you obviously misread his post about August), I and others like us have done you might appreciate more the reality of life on the island. It is a most beautiful part of the world and we are lucky to be here, but paradise it aint. It has it's highs and lows, the same as everywhere.
Yes, some 'ex-pats' do thrive on negativity, but in many cases that's probably less because of their nationality and more because of their personality. I suspect that they would moan wherever they lived.
Also, don't forget that it's a very Corfiot tradition in the winter months on the island to sit around, drink coffee/ouzo/beer and bemoan the state of anything and everything. Come to any of the various kafenion in the village where I live on a rainy morning and you'll see what I mean! Perhaps some of those who appear negative are just picking up on the vibes of the local community.
I suggest it's time to put this subject to bed. I feel sure that despite the differing opinions we're all of the same mind in that we hope the work in Roda will be finished soon, and that the village will benefit from these improvements.
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