on holiday makes you go 'arrrrggghhhhh', what really gets your goat, makes you say 'I don't believe it!' ?
For me itĺs people who insist on having their little piece of Britain available to them on holiday ľ What I call the ĹFish and Chip brigadeĺ those who get excited when they see a full English breakfast available or a Sunday roast.
Maybe Iĺm a holiday snob?
Message posted by sandyaway on 05áMarchá2006 at 11:52am - IP Logged
The worst thing I saw was on Tenerife, where I was on a winter scuba trip.
One very prominent 'British Pub' advertised that not only did you get Full English but the 'English white bread is flown in every morning' for you.
This is on an island with fantastic Spanish food, easily the best sea food I have ever had even including anywhere in Greece, Tapas bars and excellent Spanish stuff for breakfast. Why bother going away? the people there totally ignored the culture around them.
S (Somewhat bigoted about food)
Message posted by BoltonLynda on 05áMarchá2006 at 12:14pm - IP Logged
People who push and shove in the queue at the check-in. The plane wont go without anyone, and the quicker you get through the queue, the longer you have to wait at the other end.
People who moan and groan about nothing. (This gets my goat at home too) You know the kind - the weather was too hot/cold/wet/dry, the waiters were surly (try smiling at them - you'll be amazed!) it was too quiet at nights, it was too noisy at nights etc etc.
People who think that we all interested in what they are talking about, so they speak at the tops of their voices.
Travel reps who mither you to death, but are nowhere to be found in a real emergency.
Thats it, for now. I think!
Message posted by elizajay (Moderator) on 05áMarchá2006 at 12:17pm - IP Logged
Spike....I totally agree......one year we were at a beautiful hotel in Cyprus....where all the guests were staying half board. There was a family who, every morning could be found in the bar opposite the hotel , having, you guessed it....A FULL ENGLISH BREAKFAST.....Yet in the hotel was the most beautiful array of breakfast choices imaginable.....fruit/croissants/continental/cereals/and.......yes all the ingredients of a full english...if you wanted it! WHY??????
The other thing I have also be known to shake my head in wonderment at, is families who take a holiday in a hot country in the summer months...(yes it's going to be hot).....and they stay in the apartment all day....coming out to the pool/beach at 4.30 p.m........with the whole family covered in luminous white factor 200 sun bloc from head to toe.....all wearing legionnaire type sun hats and the children in neck to knee length 'zoot-suits'......running to get under the shade of an umberella as soon as they venture outdoors and complaining to all and sundry about the heat...
I know the sun is dangerous, and as a family we always go on our long walks in the morning.....find a nice spot for a long leisurely lunch (in the shade!) and then later in the afternoon flop by the pool or on the beach for a couple of hours.....enjoying the sun but being sensible about it......but there's being sensible.......and there's being sensible
Message posted by nuffstrong on 05áMarchá2006 at 12:25pm - IP Logged
The mad rush to leave the plane, everybody stands up at once squeezed together like sardines trying to open overhead lockers from 6 feet away and dropping the contents on you in the process.Why not sit down and wait it would take the same time to empty the plane and you still have to wait for a coach or a taxi.
Useless holiday reps who try to flog as many excursions as possibleat the welcome meeting and then disappear for the rest of the holiday only to appear on the coach back to the airport begging you to write nice things about them on the holiday questionnaire!
My son Lewis at 14, who on walking round Corfu Town the other year looked at the beautiful old Venetian buildings with their mellow, weathered facades, and remarked with a sniff "they could all do with a good coat of paint!!!
The aforementioned Brits who go abroad and then spend the whole time complaining that "it's not like home"! OF COURSE IT ISN'T - THAT'S WHY WE GO ABROAD FOR A CHANGE!
Message posted by BoltonLynda on 05áMarchá2006 at 2:01pm - IP Logged
Quote: Originally posted by elizajay on 05 March 2006
with the whole family covered in luminous white factor 200 sun bloc from head to toe
My husband - who has an olive complexion so goes a lovely shade of brown in the sun (and dont I just HATE him) always tuts at people who put anything higher than factor 15 and says "why dont they just leave their coats on"
Was in Kassiopi one Saturday afternoon, waiting for the bus back to Ipsos. The time table showed there were two more buses due.
The bus that was due was late and the queue just kept on growing, almost exclusively British tourists, families some with young children. When the bus did arrive it was obvious that not everyone in the queue would get on and as the next bus was due in just 10 minutes we stood back deciding to wait for that one.
What followed was the most disgusting behaviour I have ever witnessed it was one massive punch up to get on this bus. The driver, conductor, a couple of locals and us tried to explain that there was another bus but it was a pointless exercise. Children were punching and kicking adults, women were hitting men and men hitting women.
I've smiled when English people have put tomatoe ketchup on Kleftico and shook my head at the antics of club 18-30 types but I have never been so ashamed of being British as I was that day.
Message posted by Sailor on 05áMarchá2006 at 5:17pm - IP Logged
I am in full agreement with the above, but I do have to admint, partaking in the odd FEB once or twice on holiday. Not because it is English, but maybe because it was substantial with a long day ahead.
As for the rest mentioned, and in particular by Pavlo, how embarrassing. I have often been embarrassed to be British when abroad, because of the way people from the UK react to the least little thing. And as did Pavlo, just stand back and let it happen.
One of my real pet hates is the same as Nigel's. People standing up as soon as the plane stops, scrambling for baggage. I have been known to shout down the aircraft, "Sit Down", because the Cabin crew cannot be heard. I have obviously had some looks, and some threats. But what is the rush, the coaches will not leave until they have all names ticked off.
Relax, take it easy, enjoy it. Eat and drink locally.
PS: It is highly unlikely that one would get todays fresh loaf of bread from the UK, in time for breakfast, either in Spain or Greece.
The greeks are worse at queueing than we are,i was elbowed out of the queue in the post office in town,by a lady who must have been 80,but she was expert.We waited in the queue for a taxi at Spillia,and behind us was an elderly greek man and his son.When we were next in the queue,the old man got impatient,and started elbowing mrs b out of the way,to the embaressment of his son,who tried to herd him back,and when the taxi arrived ,the driver saw what was going on,and drove on a few feet,so we could win the race,and the old man gave us a big spit,as a prize,but he missed by 1mm,and the taxi driver apologised all the way back to potamos.
There are the brits as well,thankfully,we mix more with locals,or ctg members,bobbo
Message posted by Dave and Kerry on 05áMarchá2006 at 7:03pm - IP Logged
where food is concerned i think its a case of each to their own! there are people who do not like certain foods and so choose to eat what they tend to like...i do agree though that we personally wouldnt go looking for an english breakfast place except for the one off and we do tend to stay clear of english bars on Corfu but there has been the odd exception..one of my sons would not eat much Greek food a few years ago when we went and kept to english stuff! despite doing our best to get him to try it....but recently he has become a bit more daring in trying new things.
dont you just hate the carousels? we now get to the airport leave everyone to it and go outside for 30 minutes or so and return in time for our cases etc, its also amazing just how many people will watch others struggle to lift off a heavy bag/case despite standing right next to them!!!!
ps ever tried getting onto a train in Barcelona when the Spaniards are going on hol????? arms legs feet, anything to get you out of the way! needless to say we have our own way of dealing with things like that....you just have to think about it a bit.
i once heard about someone complaining that they had to keep re-positioning their umbrella on the beach because the sun kept moving!!!!! And also people moaning about the foreigners and the foreign food - even though they are the foreigners in a foreign land. And i think a famous one is when people ask the cost of something in 'real money' (pounds)...............
Message posted by Tony & Kandy on 06áMarchá2006 at 12:54am - IP Logged
Although I agree In Principle with Sailors comments regarding everyone standing immediately the plane stops. Yes blocking the isles risking objects falling from lockers onto the sensible people still sitting. BUT I'm 6foot 4 inches tall and I've been squeezed into a seat with no leg room, my knees have an imprint of the magazine rack in front of me. I've been in the foetal position for near on three hours (Well not quite, I did walk round a bit). Well the plane has stopped and the pain is getting worse so in desperation I STAND UP. Only to hear Sailor shouting Sit down! So please let me have my relief. If the airlines restored a reasonable seat spacing or it was related to passenger height, then no problem I would wait for the rabble to leave before exiting the plane.
I may be in the minority here but...... I hate those big tv screens with the satellite football being shown or the soaps from the uk. I like to be in a taverna or bar soaking up the Greek ambience not listening to the footie on the tv.
Message posted by michhelaki on 06áMarchá2006 at 1:22am - IP Logged
It really gets me mad when whatever the weather people still ask what the forecast is, if you say its going to be hot-they moan and if you say the forecast is for bad weather- they say "dont tell me that" , leaving me thinking......why ask in the first place??
Message posted by Sailor on 06áMarchá2006 at 1:28am - IP Logged
Sorry Tony, but I too am a tall person with the same problems as yourself. If other passengers were to wait, and disembark in an orderly fashion then you would probably still get off quicker.
Perhaps writing to airlines/tour operators suggesting a disembarkation routine by seat rows and numbers.
Message posted by nuffstrong on 06áMarchá2006 at 11:27am - IP Logged
Check out the 'additional legroom' seats on certain airlines..absolute rip off. I too am in the Tall Persons Club at 6ft 3" and need to walk up and down the aircraft on a regular basis. One of my pet hates is the lack of head support so that when you try and drop off your head nearly finishes up on the lap of the person behind you, or the person in the seat in front who puts their seat back and wonders why you protest (feel like garotting them).
Ihave been telling my partner for years about the rush at airports to get on the plane first or to get off first, everyone will get there in the end, so why not take time and let the others get hot and stressed, I usually sneak outside for a ciggie and leave him to wait for the cases, by the time I get back he is still waiting. We dont do FEB but usually call at Don's for a dippie egg on toast.
I don't want much in the way of English food or drink, if I did i wouldn't be in Kass, I don't even want Englich TV only once a week for rugby, usually at Don's
Carol & Stuart (Rhinos)
Message posted by MartynG on 06áMarchá2006 at 12:13pm - IP Logged
Globalisation - we've all seen aspects of this phenomenon; Marks & Sparks in Corfu Town or Paris, MacDonalds everywhere, KFC and so on. I know that these businesses need to expand into new markets etc, but the trouble is that many places around the globe are in danger of losing their unique character, to such an extent that one could be on the high street in any town, anywhere in the world.
Message posted by NatalieDonnan (Forum SuperModel) on 06áMarchá2006 at 12:13pm - IP Logged
When on holiday I hate seeing restaurants in larger resorts boasting about how you can get the best Full English Breakfast and Sunday Roast there (when my mum was in Lanzarote in Jan the bars even showed Emerdale, Coronation Street and Eastenders - who wants to watch corny soaps on hols?!!
I definately enjoy the Greek food and rarely eat anything that isn't Greek on hols but I will admit though ONCE I did I take advantage of a Full English Breakfast and cup of english tea in Kassiopi last year. I was dying with a hangover and we had come on our boat which made me feel really sick, I said there was nothing else for it I had to have a fry up and it did make me feel better and gave me the energy to let me carry on shopping I suppose!
I also have a pet hate for 18-30 resorts - it makes me ashamed to be British.
Message posted by Sue H on 06áMarchá2006 at 12:15pm - IP Logged
My ex's brother came with us once, years ago, I'd never go on holiday with him again!!!
We took him to a friends bar, the friend in question was out side cleaning tables at the time. In a very loud voice the said ex's brother declared "I'm not going in there, it's full of Greeks!" His attitude was the same all week, he'd only talk to other English tourists and was plain rude to any "foreigners", especially the Greeks!!!
How I never told him to **** off back to England I don't know
English bigots should have their passports taken away!!!!
Message posted by Cath45 on 06áMarchá2006 at 12:32pm - IP Logged
Sunday dinner served every day with real bisto gravy!! People who can't seem to live without going to McDonalds (I'd rather starve) and the mad rush to get off the plane - I don't get up or move until the plane is almost empty - pointless exercise I rather sit on the plane than stand in the crush in the aiport or spend an extra ten minutes sitting on a coach.
Message posted by Blue Chairs on 06áMarchá2006 at 1:14pm - IP Logged
Out Friends had been to Zante before us & to the same resort so we asked them to recommend some restaurants/tavernas . . ." oh, there were hardly any decent places to eat there!" was their reply, well we got a bit worried coz we love Greek food & eating out every night. When we got there needn't have worried coz what our friends meant was the food was typically Greek, there was No MacD's (hoorrah!) & it wasn't chips with everything!! We loved it!
Message posted by Sailor on 06áMarchá2006 at 1:25pm - IP Logged
We found the same last year in Zakynthos (Zante). The resorts of Alykes and Alakanas were full of Greek Restaurants and Tavernas. I certainly could remember seeing anything such as McD's, not even in Zakynthos Town. I am not saying there was not, but I did not see it.
One could get an English Breakfast if they wanted to, but then, we did also see quite a few locals eating the same also. One resort we went to, was Agios Nikolas, on an island tour. Truly traditional, little tavernas and restaurants, all along the sea front, lots of little shops selling various items for the visitors.
Only one thing that got me. We went to a Greek Night, there was two to choose from. The member of the group who booked, unknowingly booked one which was run by English people, all from the north of England, (no offence to those from the north). The band were made up from their sons and daughters, and the evening finished off with British Pub songs from old. An experience, but one learns from ones mistakes., .
All in all a great time though.
Message posted by Blue Chairs on 06áMarchá2006 at 2:21pm - IP Logged
Nice to hear there are so many Brits who really come to experience Greece. To us dutch is does seem sometimes that you all like to be together and not want to meet people from other countries. I know that is not entirely true, because i have met some lovely people from the UK when we were there.
However we did go up to Kavos one day and believe me i have done my share of clubbing in Spain when i was a teenager, but i would not have liked to be in Kavos even then. It was smelly and dirty and we really felt we were in the UK (except for the sun).
But you will be happy to know that the same kind of people live in Holland too, but lucky for us they usually go to Spain!
Message posted by Trace (Profile Location Assistant) on 06áMarchá2006 at 3:34pm - IP Logged
You are right. Have been to Portugal once 2 years ago and noticed that too!
We were staying near Albufeira and yes there was a dutch bar too and heard that they had big parties there during the European Football championship. We were there late September so everything was pretty quiet.
It just shows that people are not that different no matter where they are from.
Message posted by MartynG on 06áMarchá2006 at 5:45pm - IP Logged
One of the real joys about travelling solo on a motorbike is that you get to meet all sorts of people, from all countries and backgrounds. (The bike, somehow, breaks down the barriers to discussion.) This is one of the reasons that I do it. The cumulative experience is shared and discussed with the consequence that we all become a greater sum of our parts (if you see what I mean).
For me(and Lynn) the journey has always been the most important part of a holiday. Yes, we've been visiting Corfu for many,many years, but our greatst pleasure is always meeting other people andlearning from them (both locals and other visitors). Against the context of the original posting, I guess my other pet hate would be those who visit with a completely closed mind.
Another thing that really gets my goat on holiday - When I am on hols I am always happy and cheery and say hi and smile at everyone I walk past, its just a habit, in fact I do it at home too.
But I really hate it when you smile and say hello to people and they just ignore you or give you a dirty/funny look, it makes me mad the way people can be soooo rude, it doesn't take much break half and smile or say hi.
Message posted by Clare Ritchie on 06áMarchá2006 at 6:14pm - IP Logged
The only thing that really annoys me is as has been mentioned, everyone rushing to get off the plane and knocking me out with whatever they're hauling out of the overhead lockers....
Oh no, there's one more thing - overheard this conversation in Kalami last year (be warned regular visitors, I can hear the pay phone from my apartment!) - 'There's absolutely no nightlife here, it's too quiet...' Read the brochure before you go and you'd know that you wouldn't like it !
What really annoyed me last year was a man who went into a shop, bought something & threw his coins onto the counter and very rudely asked the woman to sort it!
People who can't even be bothered to learn please or thank you in the language of the country they are visiting.
And like most of you say want a full english! lol I don't even want one in this country let alone another country!!!! After all isn't that why we go to different countries to experience their lifestyle.
Message posted by BoltonLynda on 06áMarchá2006 at 8:18pm - IP Logged
Im posting again in defence of the FEB. I own up - i sometimes do partake of the old Full English when on holiday (they do a good one in the Cocktails and Dreams in Kalami!) but thats because I rarely have one at home - and when I do its NEVER for breakfast!
To the people complaining about those who jump up on the plane - not all of us have the joys of the coach to look forward to. To the independent traveller, the sooner you get off the plane, the sooner you get your taxi (carousel permitting lol) the sooner you get on the beach!
Seabubbles - Im afraid you dont have to go abroad to find such rudeness as that in a shop. Its an everyday occurrence in this country. And sometimes it goes much much further than just throwing money on the counter, unfortunately. I have colleagues who have been sworn at, threatened, and one was even threatened with a machete type thing (and no, I dont work in some run down inner city area)
I have to put my hands up aswell,to the FEB. Especially the one in The Beer Bucket in Kontokali. Really sets me up for the day.
One thing that does annoy me,is,when you are standing at the carousel awaiting your luggage. Then,you get shoved out of the way,so that the other person can make sure that they get their luggage. Who's to say,that their luggage was going to come out first anyway. As it was,i ended up saying excuse me to the person that pushed me,as ours came out first. Just chill out. You are on holiday. The coaches won't go without you,and the taxi's know when the flights are coming in. Ok, in really busy periods,you may have to wait for a taxi. BUT,you have arrived in Corfu safely. Now just CHILL!
Message posted by Carolena on 06áMarchá2006 at 8:45pm - IP Logged
Well, I don't care what people eat, as long as they don't moan about the Greek food. Regarding getting off the plane in a hurry, if you think it's annoying in Corfu, it's unbelievable in the US. Why the airline can't let passengers off first who have connections, I don't know. There is nothing more annoying than knowing that you are going to miss your next flight because some idiot in front stood up first and then spent ages messing about with the overhead bins!
FEB to defend or not?? Well what get me is when they order FEB and then complain its not like it is at home! Oh dont you just despair.
Message posted by Sailor on 06áMarchá2006 at 9:26pm - IP Logged
Everyones concerns and comments are appreciated, but in answer to Bolton Lynda's comments on disembarking from the aircraft. Surely an orderly fashion, with out the pushing, shoving, stepping on others is a far better, and indeed a quicker way of getting off the aircraft.
By the way, there are loads of taxi's at the airport as well, and as it has been pointed out, one still has to wait for the luggage. The luggage handlers do not know who is getting into a taxi or a coach. It will come up when they are ready, and in what ever order.
Message posted by Guest on 06áMarchá2006 at 10:04pm - IP Logged
Will some body send for the men in white coats ....
I agree with SAILOR
still once in a lifetime cant be bad .
Ille try not to do it again Chris
CHEERS AS ALWAYS
Message posted by BoltonLynda on 06áMarchá2006 at 11:17pm - IP Logged
Yes, Sailor, I know there are loads of taxis at the airport - but we always have a lift waiting for us. And yes, it would be quicker if everyone got off the plane in an orderly fashion but unfortunately, thats never ever ever going to happen. I, however, am not guilty of holding everyone up because I always put my bag under the seat in front of me so I can make a quick getaway. And I never push, shove or step on others (god help them if I did lol)
Message posted by nuffstrong on 06áMarchá2006 at 11:29pm - IP Logged
People who speak to you and others like you are an idiot gets me going, and people who put each other down for no reason.
rude customers...not nice people esp at christmas.
99% of charvas, thanks to them young peope have a rather bad reputation. and can't stand at the bus stop without getting dirty looks of the old ladys who think your there to steal there handbags. Not everyone is the same...
there are so many things...
Message posted by robbiej on 07áMarchá2006 at 12:17am - IP Logged
I totaly agree about the football but we booked our holiday so HE could watch the world cup without work interfering ,Me? I'll be looking at the beautiful views, sun bathing and trying to forget about the football!
Message posted by billiz on 07áMarchá2006 at 12:20am - IP Logged
We hear the complaint ; the bus is late today---why are the english newspapers so expensive abroad --2 people complaining bitterly to the doctor about the mozzies he should do something--how long doed it take for the 24hr film development service--the reply from shopkeeper 36hrs sir-customer ok then we will come back later.
Then the expat. who think i'm mad not having-washing machine,dishwasher or sky t.v One lady even had the cheek to tell me greek music was boring and all the greek women were peasants so why theh*** do they stay here.
When mcdonalds come to san Stefanos i'm out of here
Message posted by Suz_Corfu (Web Site Weather Girl!) on 07áMarchá2006 at 12:20am - IP Logged
Well after reading all the posts here........I could say what a load of ol' moaners you are.....LOL [ ducks under desk! ]
But have to agree with you all.....we are on the other side in one sense altho' have experienced the plane trip and carousel at Corfu airport....being our first time in Corfu we didn't know anything and me ..well it had been 18yrs (my first time abroad) since I last got on and off a plane. Mac had gone for trolley and cuppas for us ...I waited at carousel and our cases and holdalls were well over weight ..one polite guy next to me [bless him!] said is that your case I said yes but its ok I'll get it next time round when Mac comes back ....had to laugh he tried to lift it for me and ended up going round like a bowling alley knocking others over as he did and then said ok we'll leave it... good idea I said lol
We living here hear all the above comments..."where can we get pie & chips" "where can we get fish & chips" "where's an english bar" etc, Even get some who bring their english bacon, sausages and all sorts from Uk, amazes us how it is still edible & imagination runs wild if ever they lost their luggage for a while....phewwwwyyyy! Plus the ones who complain...Too hot here or too wet ..not coming here again! etc etc. We feel like saying well just s*d off then ...but its our jobs to be polite! [ just go in kitchen and count to 10 or maybe more! lol]
The worse case we have come across was a guy on his own been in Roda for 2 weeks holiday waiting for coach to take him home ...we were waiting to say bye to friends we had made going on same coach as this guy. Well us being us asked him if he had a good time....this was the mistake..
NO! (we ask why?) I dont like the sea, I dont like the beach, I dont like swimming pools, I dont drink and I dont like greek food.
The friends piped up and said [ this is the best part ] What did ya come for then! LOL..we all just burst out laughing!
To be honest all greek food is same in one sense to British ..its just the way it is cooked and the added spices/herbs that makes it different. We have sunday Roast but do it the way the Greeks do ....add the spices /herbs etc, altho' must admit like the crackling left on the pork and can't beat home made stuffing with all the herbs- origano/basil/sage & garlic etc...Yummy!
This is Corfu ..part of Greece...and altho' there is quite a few of us brits living here..and even more visit each year....You will NOT change the Greeks..and why should you want to! This island is paradise and who in their right mind would want to change that!
[ p.s. Agree with you billiz-definitely! We love greek tv best way to learn! & no soaps!! ]
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