What an absolutely absurd programme.
They tried their best to give us a view of why Greece is now in trouble and how corruption is widespread; they did this by having bits of the programme injected with experts from various learning institutions.
Sorry didn't work on us, but talking to people in the office this morning who are not totally up to date with the problems faced by the average Greek, they said that's why they are in trouble "everyone's" either tax invading or on the take.....and this is only a few people who watched the programme in my office.
Ok they did have some valid points but it was far more negative towards Greece and her people,maybe done so to make people say exactly the comments which have been talked about in my office this morning.
Andy.
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So many here are saying the programme was rubbish and this thing doesn't happen in Greece. I watched it with a very good Greek friend of mine (who works 70+ hours a week in the summer for a minimum wage) and he kept smiling, laughing and agreeing with everything the programme said. Having lived in Greece myself for MANY years I can assure you that in my experience it certainly DOES happen. We both thought the programme was a very accurate portrayal of the Greek way of doing things. The politicians have 'bought' votes with promises that they knew they could never sustain and the Greek people swallowed it. Problem is that now Greece has joined 'the club' that the they have to fall in line with the rest of us and of course they don't like it. Why SHOULD they retire at 67, 14 years later and on less than half the money that they were promised ? There are many, many hard working Greek people who certainly don't deserve the situation that they find themselves in but there are many more greedy, self centred individuals that have lived by this 'easy ride' system and are now having to face the real world. Please understand that I am not calling the average hard working Greek family but the selfish minority that seem to have most of the power.
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I watched the programme, it's plain to see that it was totally balmming the Greek people for the tax evation, polititans make the rules and the euro zone should not have over looked how the Greeks live. If they did there job's properly then Greece wouldn't be in this state. Well I don't blame the people, and I love the Greeks, and would be lost without my Greek holiday's, we should help them.
We have far more corrupt politicians in this country to start with! Our pensions are totally rubbish compared to the ammount of tax's we all pay for, tax on wages, fuel, council tax, on clothes, booze, cigarets, I could go on... We are too taxed in this country. I am a single parent on tax credits, it's a bad system, wages should go up with inflation like they used to in the eightees, I hate having the tax credit top ups, maybe it will catch us up with our pensions. I'm worried about it... I'm not 60 untill 2027!...by then the pension age will have gone up for sure, what to? Who know's??
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Lindy,
The UK pension age has already been changed from 60 for women and 65 for men. I am 56 and won't get my state pension until I am 66, that's if they don't move the goalposts yet again!
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Quote: Originally posted by Elliemay on 08 November 2011
Lindy,
The UK pension age has already been changed from 60 for women and 65 for men. I am 56 and won't get my state pension until I am 66, that's if they don't move the goalposts yet again!
Watch this space Elliemay they may just move them again!!! At this rate I will still be working and travelling to work on my motorised scooter!!!
As for the programme!!! Well watched 5 minutes then turned it over, absolute codswallop and sensationalist tripe!
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I only watched the tail end of that program and it was AWFUL bordering on big brother and they were there to do one thing slagg off the Greeks. If it had been Panorama with Jeremy Vine then we would have had something to worry about but it was nowhere near in his league of reporting.
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OK I'm 53 in a few years and my work is hazardous.
I want to retire on 90% of my current pay...who wouldnt eh?
I watched it and laughed. OK maybe the format was a bit pants. But lets think about the content for a moment.
We all love Greece for our own reasons and each have our own Greek friends. But
... at the risk of being shot at dawn; I think it was a factual program, and those of us who have lived in Greece probably related and agreed with more than one item of the reportage.
Anyone who has rented a house in Greece and has been asked to put half the actual rent on the contract and the lawyer agrees to it...
Can any of you tell me hand of heart that what they were saying is not true...?
On the other hand the Greeks could well produce a program on the benefit cheats in the UK and that would make the Greeks laugh at us!
Can anyone offer an plausible non-Euro related alternative as to why the Greek economy is in such a mess?
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