Also, Greek cats are not the same breeds as their UK cousins and they are naturally skinnier than visitors may be used to seeing at home.
We always had cats when we were in Greece and, no matter how much food they got, they always looked sleek and trim - never even remotely overweight. We also made sure they were wormed regularly, so that wasn't the cause for their size either.
We often remarked that, at the end of the season, the regular begging cats looked very much as they had at the beginning - and that was after six months of receiving plenty of food from the various taverna tables.
So looks can sometimes be deceiving.
Stuart
Message posted by Sailor on 27 September 2005 at 10:52pm - IP Logged
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Sailor
You are all nearly fighting like Cats and Dogs on this thread, meowing and hissing at each other, barking up the wrong trees, etc etc.
As somebody pointed out in an earlier post, it is the trait of the British public to take fancy to our feline, and canine friends what ever nationality. And it does not matter what anyone says, it is something that will never change.
If a dog is found by the road side, it will be rescued. If a cat comes scrounging for the odd titbit, it will be given a morsel of food. Unless of course you are the animal hater, then the cat will get kicked, and the puppy will be left.
Lets be thankful, regardless if it is against some policies, that there are more of the kinder to animal people out there. At least Cats and Dogs do not argue, differ over the human species, they see them as all of their friends.
We all walk the same planet.
Yammas, Chris.
Message posted by sc on 27 September 2005 at 11:06pm - IP Logged
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finally we are getting some post that are showing some commonsense. It is so wrong to feed the cats they are kept to keep down the vermin around the apartments. My Greek friend has them in her garden for just that purpose. If you start feeding kittens they do not learn basic hunting skills and how do you think they will then survive the winter? They are slim they do not need the fat to keep them warm like their english cousins they need to be light and agile to successfully hunt prey. As for the donkey as previously stated and confirmed with a previous post do you not think that donkeys were on Corfu for a purpose? Of course they were they transported goods and people all day long I have seen a donkey walking up a mountain road in the full heat of the sun with MUM, Dad and child on board. This was my point that this particular Sidari donkey is probably having an easier time now than in times past. I did not say it was ideal but better! The post regarding how we treat animals in this country was also very honest. I live in the north east and there are still dog fights arranged - to the death that sick people bet on who will survive - thats why I suggested Belinda get a life and smell the coffee. I think all in all that donkey is fairly fortunate
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Sailor, much of what you say has meaning but can i just ask you a simple question only regarding cats so that everyone can get back on topic??.. if you were walking down your road or any road in the uk and a cat came fussing round your feet mewing, would you take it home and feed it before putting it right outside,out of your house away from where you found it? That is what makes me fume, especially here as people do just that only worse, they then leave the country frequently leaving the cat with no sense of direction in making its way home.My cats are lean as Stuart says it IS the breed and my cats also have collars so do forgive me if i get slightly argumentative about this but i believe that you would too if you knew just how hard it is to be an animal lover here and idiots took YOUR pets thinking they were being helpful. I dare you to bring YOUR pet here for a year, i think youd have a slightly altered opinion if you experienced the upset first hand instead of just making haphazard guesses at a situation which is fact.
Message posted by Sailor on 28 September 2005 at 12:22am - IP Logged
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I think it is safe to say in the UK, that it is known that probably all cats are owned by someone, either in your street, or near by. Therefore it would not be prevalent to the UK to do what is done in Corfu. As it is been pointed out, quite a few of the cats in and around resorts, villages, towns on Corfu are there for the purpose of hunting vermon, rodents, etc, and not specifically owned by anyone person. Your cats obviously an exception to this rule. So it is apparent that cats of this kind will venture for a s********** of food elsewhere on occasions.
It is not uncommon either, to see a domesticated cat come to others, other than their owners in search of a stroke, or in some cases a s********** of food if it is ready available, like a BBQ or similar.
We have a cat around our small area that was owned by a previous tenant of one of the properties, and left behind. (It was out on the prowl when its owners moved off). We have all tried to take ownership of this cat, but will not come in to any house except the house where it use to belong, but again will not go in, because it does not recognise the owner residing there now. Even the rescue people have been out, but the cate has eluded them. We have searched for the owner, but they cannot be traced, (Moonlight flip we think). So we now leave food out for the said cat which she takes quite happily if no one is around. She also hunts for her own food. We have often heard to cry of a pigeon being attacked during the night, or some other bird.
Perhaps your cats to, when off roaming as cats do, sights a friendly face at a taverna or bar, and pops in to see what he or she can get. It is what cats do.
Therefore, people will be a sucker for a cute furry face, offer a stroke, even a lap to sit on. Unlike a dog, a cat is not owned, it is a freelance animal, and do what it wants to. Leave a cat on its own, and it will survive. Leave a dog on its own, and invariably it will find a hide and curl up and wait in hope.
Its a natural phenomenon.
Yammas, Chris.
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Ecoptrails I can assure you that I have no such thing and your comments are in bad taste as I am just an ordinary working guy who saves to try and get a holiday.
As I said the watch was a leaving present from my old employers for long service and your memory is failing you as it was a Tag actually. Some thieving ******* has taken away probably one of the only luxuries I will ever own.
My comment about being able to rent a villa was a way of putting the topic into perspective. I was pointing out that when people go on holiday they don't want, or expect, feline company. Luckily I would not hurt one but I hate to think what would happen if a real cat hater rented a place.
It's interesting to see that some comments are now being posted from people who live there who also don't like holiday makers feeding them.
Also I've noticed that a lot of taverna owners shoo cats away from the tables, probably in the knowledge that diners don't like to be pestered by animals when trying to relax.
My flippant message to catr lovers would be..........why not have a week or two in a cat's home as it would probably be idylic for them.
Message posted by Stuart on 28 September 2005 at 9:27am - IP Logged
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Quote: Originally posted by ecotrails on 27 September 2005
PS - you can rent my 6 bed villa with pool and a view (when it's finished) if you want but you'll have to promise to feed the wild rabbits, cats, rats (sorry olive squirrels), snakes and other assorted living organisms that pass by.
Ian
Ian
I don't think even you could get away with putting 3 sets of bunk beds and a bathtub in your goatshed and calling it a "6 bed villa with pool"!
Stuart
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Sailor, again very good points raised but you conveniently avoided my question, i did not ask if you would give the cat food at a taverna, in the street or wherever you spotted it, i asked would you take it away from where it was to give it food and in turn leave it unable to find its way back?? People also moan about waiters here "shooing" the animals away, THEY ARE RIGHT TO DO THAT! as you have seen in previous posts not everyone wants a cat there when they eat, its not healthy, if someone who has an aversion to them sees cats in the restaurant they will go elsewhere+the restaurant loses business, if the cats dont stop SOME MAY take other inhumane measures shall we say to see that the problem is sorted out with finality, again they are right even though it may seem cruel they have businesses to run and at the end of the day it is the people who have gone all gooey over the felines that have lead them to their fate as once a tasty treat is given a cat will go back for more hungry or not. Kindness can be cruelty in disguise and the sooner people realise that the better.Some of what i say may seem heartless and harsh but if you look deeper you will see that i see all points of view on this, dont forget that i am CRAZY about my animals and if anything happened to them i would be distraught but if my cats become a pest in the neighbourhood, affecting peoples livelihoods i would expect them to be dealt with. If (as i have said a thousand times before) ***holes dont feed them they have a much greater chance of living a happy and full life as they DO tend to go for food at the place that they are use to recieving it. One final point is the agreeing with what you say about "leave a cat on its own +it will survive" WELL DONE!! WHY CANT FOLKS LEAVE THEM ALONE THEN!!!
Message posted by BruceAndMaria (Born again CTG member) on 28 September 2005 at 10:16am - IP Logged
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michhelaki, Would you kindly please stop calling me or anybody else who gives a cat a titbit a ***hole...... I'am no ***hole so please stop it
Bruce
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My apologies Buce but i am so damn angry at what I feel is irresponsibility, if you had lost as many animals as i have or care to THINK what the results of your actions can be you would be angry. I have tried my hardest to give a good home to animals here and lost so many that it all seems pointless and is heartbreaking to say the least, if you want to help why dont YOU join a charity to help in the way that Belinda has done, she is the only person who is helping with any notion of responsibility, if not her chosen charity then why not the Ark? or is it that you just want to feel good about yourself for your 2 weeks "living in heaven' before you turn your back on the situation until the next time you return, it is not fair to do that and leave the residents of Greece to pick up the pieces. When you go out today and see an animal in someones garden why dont you throw over a half eaten burger and see what kind of reception you recieve from the owner? I GUARANTEE it will be a hell of a lot more frosty than any comment i have made!!!
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