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Topic: Flights Out Of Season
Posted By: Engreek
Subject: Flights Out Of Season
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 2:45pm
Hi All,

I am new here and so glad I found this group. I have just started in the very early stages of researching how feasible it might be to buy a small property in Sidari and have a million questions, although I will save all of those for another time. I am a long way off as I'm still saving funds and am simply researching a potential idea at the moment whilst the market, economy and Brexit becomes a little clearer. 

If anyone has any pointers as to where to direct my holiday home purchase questions this would be very much appreciated as I didn't want to 'spam' these boards as they seem more holiday orientated. 

One question I do have though is how accessible Corfu is out of season. Our ideal airports would be East Mids, Birmingham, followed by any other. I believe there is also a ferry service which might enable access in the winter, so if anyone has any information about this I would be grateful. 

Many thanks 
Hayley :) x 



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Posted By: weststekker
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 3:02pm
 As far as I know the only flights to Corfu out of season will have to go via Athens. Unable to help with any information about ferries.

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Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 3:07pm
There are direct flights from late March to early November if you use the likes of easyJet. Throughout the winter most flights would be via Athens or Thessalonika.
I would highly advise to rent for a year to see Corfu in all seasons and see whether it appeals to you before purchasing a home.
To be honest Sidari is like a one horse town where the horse left in the winter.
This year we had minus temperatures and snow for a couple of days. Only yesterday, raging thunder and lightning storms and a hailstorm. 

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Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 3:18pm
Thank you for the valuable information. We have spoken about the seasons and would quite like to be able to use the property ourselves a little out of season (probably tagged on to the end and beginning) I like the idea of being there aside from for the beach and sun but need to make sure we can get there to use it Big smile

I am glad you've raised it as we need to ensure we have considered absolutely everything. 


Linking to what you have mentioned, One of my other questions was how close the amenities would be out of season. I have pretty much assumed here that Sidari will be completely closed as we have already asked a local friend there but he moves away in winter... 

Providing we could drive or walk to a nearby convenience to get essentials we would be happy with that. 

thank you so much for your valued reply! 




Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 3:29pm
Apologies, I should have mentioned that we will not be relocating. We intend to purchase a property and let it out for the majority of the summer season, saving a few weeks for ourselves. We would prefer to do this for a few years to achieve some income from the property during season. We intend to use the property ourselves for four weeks during the year, 2 in season and 2 out of season. 


Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 3:44pm
Best that you check into the Greek law on renting property and also check how many properties are not being rented in the area.
Once you own a property, you have to pay Property Tax, also you become liable for Income Tax as you are basically a business.
I really suggest that you look into this big time before parting with a penny.

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Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 3:54pm
Hi EllieMay, 

Thank you for your reply. I have coered a fair bit of ground in terms of the rental and purchasing aspect of the property but still have a lot more research to do. Too much to list on here hence me leaving those questions for another day..LOL

I was just looking for practical advice in terms of access the area in winter and the amenities available at present as I seem to be struggling to find this. 

many thanks 


Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 4:03pm
Although I could reel off a million questions if you'd like some bedtime reading?? Big smileBig smileBig smilehe he! 


Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 5:10pm
Have already advised you of how to get there out of season.
A few restaurants open in the Winter in Sidari, but usually weekends only. Basically, nothing else. We live 6km away so am being as truthful as I can.

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Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 5:20pm
There are three supermarkets in Sidari near the crossroads as you enter from Roda that are open all year. Kazianos which is a freezer centre come supermarket, then Diellas an Italian supermarket that has several outlets in Corfu, also Markato, a Greek supermarket which is opposite. No problem getting food. Lol

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Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 5:50pm
Thank you so much Elliemay! Really helpful info that can tick off a few more queries. I compiled a list of 68 questions I had in the first 24hrs of thinking of this mad idea. The things I thought might be easier to find out weren't as easy as expected and some of the harder have been easy. Having someone like yourself on hand with a wealth of knowledge really helps, thank you.

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Posted By: Graham-TA
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:45pm
As Elliemay has told you previously flights are via Athens. You can fly via Thessiloniki but flights are only onwards to Corfu in the middle of the night once a week so also the high cost of a taxi to Sidari on top or do like we do and catch the bus to Corfu and then the local bus to final destination. (much cheaper but best to have an overnight stopover unless you want to sleep on the airport floor). Flights to Athens are from Heathrow or Gatwick so added expense at that end also to get to airport. Sidari  is like a utopia to us as is where we have our Corfu home we have to travel about 9 miles to buy a loaf of bread whereas Sidari has places to eat at the weekend and shops open every day.

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Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:59pm
Wow thanks for all the info Graham! Reference ferries... are there any or have I found some inaccurate info? Just trying to compile all the options.

I'm writing all of your helpful advice down like a mad woman


Posted By: sue avrio
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 9:08pm
Endorse all Elliemay says and worth considering also is that Corfu out of season can be very wet and you would definitely need some sort of heating. The older stone houses are lovely but if left over the winter without adequate heating can become damp and uncomfortable and therefore difficult to warm initially.
With regard to the ferry they do run during the wintertime but not direct to Corfu so you would need to take a further ferry from the mainland. 
Strongly suggest a winter visit before you go ahead. Corfu out if season is very different but also lovely especially if you like walking. April, May and October can be gorgeous but equally very wet and miserable if you are not warm in your property. 
Ensure you research rental potential versus taxes and also an EOT license.  Good luck.
 



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Posted By: Graham-TA
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 5:51am
As Sue says ferries run most days to Igoumenitsa from Ancona, Bari and Brindisi. They are also running once a week from Venice at the moment, but again, unless you want to sleep on the ships floor, they are expensive with a cabin and then another ferry will be needed to get to Corfu. We are in Corfu at the moment having been here for about 6 weeks and are returning sometime next week. This year we arrived just after the snow and ice in January and have had a fairly good winter with lots of sunny days. It can also rain every day in February so this year we have been lucky. Heating is expensive here unless you have your own olive trees and there is very little to do other than at the weekends when there are a very few tavernas open in some parts of the island.

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Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 6:33am
Thanks for the info Sue and Graham! We will make a few winter visits then which will give us chance also to see how well the transport links work in winter. Do the buses still run to neighbouring towns?

The heating advice is great thank you

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Posted By: sue avrio
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 10:20am
Heating is expensive but if you only intend to visit a couple of weeks out of season its not so bad. Central heating tends to be oil fired which requires a machine room. 
We have a large wood burner in our house in Kalami which warms the whole house plus electric underfloor heating which we use occasionally on a timer to ensure the rooms are warmed for a couple of hours first thing in the morning. The cost of electricity is high but the rooms are controlled individually and we are not there for the whole winter. Our hot water is solar powered and we very rarely need to use the back up immersion heater. You could also consider having your underfloor heating powered by solar but the initial cost is much higher. Hope this helps.
If you are looking for somewhere relatively small you may find a good wood burner is sufficient. 


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Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 3:07pm
Hi Sue, 

Really useful to know thank you. I really like the idea of being able to visit our property in the winter also. I appreciate I won't be sun, sea and sand but that's almost the draw of it to me. An escape somewhere far enough away from home to feel as though we have been away, but the familiarity of somewhere we love in our second home. It would be the same if we had a holiday home in Cornwall- wet and windy and blooming cold but that wouldn't deter me! (the prices do though!) 

I did wonder if during the winter it would be safe? I don't mean crime wise, but in terms of repair or needing attention and whether it would be necessary to have someone look after it out of season or if we could comfortably manage but checking it ourself once in winter and just visiting in an emergency if required? 

You sound like you have a wealth of really useful knowledge! Could I ask where in Corfu your home is?


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Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 3:18pm
Sorry Sue, I spotted Kalami when I re read Embarrassed


Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 3:20pm
I would advise to have someone to look after the property if you are not there all the time. This is what we did. Someone to air the house to deter mould in a shut up property as it is really damp and cold in the winter. Also to remedy any problems, burst pipes etc.

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Posted By: sue avrio
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 4:01pm
Happy to help. You are welcome to PM me if you have any questions.
You really should have someone to keep and eye out when you are not there otherwise you would not know if there was an emergency. You will also need someone to oversee cleaning, laundry and any maintenance during letting periods. A successful letting property takes some organising but once you have a reliable group of people it is easy. 
If you only intend to spend around 4 weeks per year in Corfu be prepared that some of that time will always be taken out with things to do.



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Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 6:31am
Great, thanks Sue!


Posted By: Graham-TA
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 1:29pm
Just had a look at Sue Avrio's house. Billy and Foxy (local dogs) sunbathing in the front garden. We had an hour on the beach as it is sooo warm today.
We have never had anyone to look after our house. We leave the shutters shut and the windows open so the air passes through the house. We turn off the water and the electric at the mains and we have never had a problem in 15 years. As Ellimay says, it is very damp here through the winter.


Posted By: sue avrio
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 9:53am
Will be there very soon - so looking forward to some sunshine.

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Posted By: Engreek
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 10:30am
Ahhh Graham what a lovely post!! I will be a nightmare with the local dogs. We befriended a couple when we came over last and they started knowing we would have our daily meet up at a certain time and place!! I looked in to the charity that captures them, vaccinates and collars them then releases them again. And How beautiful is Corfu that you don't hardly have to worry about crime.

I've got a plan to rewrite all of the information I've collected over the last week or so and will buy a 'special notebook' for it today. If this ever happens then so be it but at least I've given it serious consideration and thanks to you guys, have looked at all of the pros and potential issues of buying in Corfu.

A long way to go, but I feel much more informed after speaking to you all this week and can't thank you enough for all of the information you've given.

Enjoy your Corfu homes all x x

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Posted By: sue avrio
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 10:38am
Good luck and hope your dreams come true. You know where we are if you need any help. 

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