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Topic: A Polite Request From The Admin Team
Posted By: Elliemay
Subject: A Polite Request From The Admin Team
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 3:12pm
Hi,
As you are aware, this is a multi-national site and we have many members for whom English is not their first language.

To make the site more enjoyable and fun for all, could we, the Admin Team, kindly request that members try to present posts in an easily legible form. We do appreciate that we are not all experts in English Grammar, however, it would be preferable if there was some use of capital letters and punctuation marks within your posts.

Posting only in capital letters is deemed as shouting, and we would ask you to refrain from doing this.

Also, please avoid the use of Text Talk. For those of you who are not sure what Text Talk is, it's a form of shorthand used on mobile phones when sending text messages and during instant messaging.

With thanks,
Admin Team.


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Posted By: C4owner
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 2:54am
Sounds very reasonable to me.


Posted By: Bob and Wendy
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 4:49am
Hi Elliemay. Thanks for that, I don't know about anyone else, but an old dinasaur like me finds text speak incomprehensible.
Bob.


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Posted By: dazzalad
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 10:58am
Hi Elliemay, Whilst I agree with you regarding posts in capitals (deemed as to be shouting). I would have to say that the use of punctuation etc should be at the users discretion (if they are capable).
There may be users out there in the forum who have not had the exposure to education or they could have learning difficulties such as Dyslexia and putting a subject/topic of this nature may offend or stop people from joining/posting on the Agni site.
 
Regards
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2012 at 2:42pm
Hi Dazzalad,
I would kindly ask you to read the request again.
I fail to see your point.

Surely, if those of us that are able, present posts in an easily legible form, this will make it much easier to read for folks that have the difficulties that you mentioned, and also for our members for whom English is not their first language.
 
They, like I, may well use a translation service, when posts are of a different language to their own, which would have great difficulty translating a post of several lines with no punctuation whatever.

I must say that I have difficulty working out what some posters are trying to say when there are posts of this nature.

Regards Elliemay


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Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 7:16am
Just a gentle reminder folks. Smile

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Posted By: BruceAndMaria
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 3:19pm
I love those text messages my grandchildren send me..I never reply because I haven't a clue what they are saying...Big smile
 
The messages look like some aliens from out of space are trying to communicate with me..Confused
 
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Posted By: Puddies1
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 4:00am
I agree with the difficulty for people with learning difficulty or Dyslexia who obviously should  be forgiven, but laziness drives me mad, I have a husband who does it!  Most of the time it takes me twice the time to read something without correct punctuation & quite often, due to it, it can be taken two ways! x

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Posted By: Graham T-A
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 4:06am
Exactly the problem Puddles. One persons idleness can cause extra difficulties for maybe hundreds of people. I have looked at previous posts from the people who are not using any puntuation marks etc. and previously they have used them so it's not becase they can't.


Posted By: Angelofthenorth
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 4:33am
Reminds me of a book on punctation which gives examples of how poor punctation can get things so wrong and totally change the meaning of a sentence.  The title is taken from a student's description of a Panda and is called "Eats, shoots and leaves"! LOLLOL


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Posted By: MartynG
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 4:54am
How about this one, from my English teacher;
 
Written on the blackboard was "nut screws washers and bolts"  Now this could be:
 
Nut, screws, washers and bolts; or
 
Nut, screws washers and bolts.
 
What a difference a single comma makes.
 
Martyn


Posted By: Bob and Wendy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 11:43am
My abiding diificulty is when, and when not to, use double letters. I just fail to be concistant.
As a child, my parents held spelling bees at meal times, my younger sisters were better than myself, with double letter words being my downfall every time.
Bob.


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Posted By: Puddies1
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 3:18am
Oops! Not sure where that message went, I might have posted somewhere else by mistake!!  I'll try again! Yes, I agree with you Bob, spelling can be difficult with some people especially with dyslexia!  I love that Martyn, something so simple as a missed comma can cause chaos with misunderstanding!  Hmmm! I dont think there should be  'ss' is that although it sounds as though there should be!!! Sue x lol

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Posted By: StarMel
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 4:44pm
Some questions from non-English speaking member: is it a common point not to use punctuation marks in English writing (on forums, chats, daily handwriting etc)? Do natives face any difficulties reading compound sentences without any commas?  I've come across many texts in English obviously lacking punctuation (not on this forum luckily). Is it regarded as illiteracy of the author (as in Russian writing language) or just spelling simplification in American manner?Wink



Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 4:50pm
Hi,
No, it is not a common point not to use punctuation in the English language. I personally find it extremely difficult to read anything that does not have punctuation as I cannot, often, understand what the person means.
It's all in the punctuation. Wink 


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Posted By: StarMel
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 5:13pm
Elliemay, thank you for the reply, you set my mind at ease Big smile 
This forum is a godsend for me indeed! My English is not perfect at all so I have a unique chance to combine business with pleasure: to practise my English skill, to find tons of interesting information about Corfu and Greece and at the same time to associate with nice and pleasant people Hug
P.S. I'll be grateful if anyone points out mistakes in my English (in forum posts or PM's) Embarrassed


Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 5:32pm
Hi StarMel,
I don't think you have an worries on that score, your command of English is excellent. Star


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Posted By: Geoff
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 5:59pm
im with you on this one starmel and elliemay i cant stand it when people dont properly punctuate their posts a punctuation mark can make all the difference to the meaning of a sentence as well as making it easier to read
Wink
OR....
I'm with you on this one StarMel and Elliemay. I can't stand it when people don't properly punctuate their posts. A punctuation mark can make all the difference to the meaning of a sentence, as well as making it easier to read!
And StarMel .. (actually you shouldn't really start a sentence with "and") I agree with Elliemay about the standard of your English - wish I could grasp languages to such a degree! Confused

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Posted By: StarMel
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 6:00pm
Thanks, Elliemay and Geoff! No one is perfect though and I still have some lags in grammarWink And still have some misunderstanding of what native speakers sometimes say (talking to the Greeks and other nations mostly makes no problems)Embarrassed

P.S. I've learned "never start with 'because'" rule at school. Now it's time to add "never start with 'and'" to it. This one and using fragments (sentences with predicate only) are my bad habits derived from spoken languageEmbarrassed


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Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 6:30pm
Hi Geoff,
It's not totally incorrect to start a sentence with "And" or "But" but better not to and use other more formal terms.

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/can-you-start-sentences-with-%E2%80%9Cand%E2%80%9D-and-%E2%80%9Cbut%E2%80%9D/" rel="nofollow - http://www.dailywritingtips.com/can-you-start-sentences-with-%E2%80%9Cand%E2%80%9D-and-%E2%80%9Cbut%E2%80%9D/

Welcome to the idiosyncracies of the English language StarMel. Confused


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Posted By: Geoff
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 7:02pm
Interesting Link Elliemay - also interesting that it starts off with "In the past ..."
So it just goes to show how old I am. Confused


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Posted By: Canarydave
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 8:26pm
Grate Post thi's is two


Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 8:27pm
LOLLOLLOL Behave.

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Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2013 at 10:00pm
Hi folks,
Just yet a gentle reminder to our members old and new.

As you are aware, this is a multi-national site and we have many members for whom English is not their first language.

To make the site more enjoyable and fun for all, could we, the Admin Team, kindly request that members try to present posts in an easily legible form. We do appreciate that we are not all experts in English Grammar, however, it would be preferable if there was some use of capital letters and punctuation marks within your posts.

Posting only in capital letters is deemed as shouting, and we would ask you to refrain from doing this.

Also, please avoid the use of Text Talk. For those of you who are not sure what Text Talk is, it's a form of shorthand used on mobile phones when sending text messages and during instant messaging.

With thanks,
Admin Team.


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Posted By: rocdoc
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 11:31pm
Deja vu? I must say, StarMel, your command of written English is better than most native speakers on here. Most of us would have no clue what a predicate was!

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Posted By: StarMel
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2013 at 10:44am
Originally posted by rocdoc rocdoc wrote:

Deja vu? I must say, StarMel, your command of written English is better than most native speakers on here. Most of us would have no clue what a predicate was!

Thank you, Rocdoc Embarrassed It's always a pleasure for me to practise my writing and speaking skills. I had last English courses in university more than 7 years ago but most skills I've got at school more than 13 years ago. So I may sometimes fail using moods, tenses, and declensions or word order or meaningEmbarrassed Also I have to use dictionary sometimes when writing posts on here (shh! it's a secret!!!)Big smile
Re native speakers — maybe natives just use grammar freely and simplify written language as they do in real life.  Wink 

P.S. Btw I don't mind using text talk))) — and such bracket-smileys. I've read that they are a distinguisher of Russians as noone elsewhere uses them, is it true?) 


Posted By: razaker
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2013 at 1:25pm
Well if my posts dont come across as good English grammer you should hear me talk (being broad Geordie) LOLLOLLOL

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Posted By: StarMel
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2013 at 1:45pm
That's it, Razaker Smile Native Brits are hardly understandable than other folks speaking English as foreign (but Americans are even worse)LOL Though it's applicable to all native speakers of all languages, I think.


Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 9:05pm
Hi ,
Just a gentle reminder for our newer members.

As you are aware, this is a multi-national site and we have many members for whom English is not their first language.

To make the site more enjoyable and fun for all, could we, the Admin Team, kindly request that members try to present posts in an easily legible form. We do appreciate that we are not all experts in English Grammar, however, it would be preferable if there was some use of capital letters and punctuation marks within your posts.

Posting only in capital letters is deemed as shouting, and we would ask you to refrain from doing this.

Also, please avoid the use of Text Talk. For those of you who are not sure what Text Talk is, it's a form of shorthand used on mobile phones when sending text messages and during instant messaging.

With thanks,
Admin Team.


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Posted By: razaker
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 4:27pm
Aye nae bother Elliemay Ill gan canny wen posting alreet man, ha
joking in my native toungueLOL


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Posted By: Elliemay
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 6:55pm
Well I'm gonna do it again. Or should that read properly "I'm going to do it again"
Just so that our many new members are aware.

Hi ,
Just a gentle reminder for our newer members.

As you are aware, this is a multi-national site and we have many members for whom English is not their first language.

To make the site more enjoyable and fun for all, could we, the Admin Team, kindly request that members try to present posts in an easily legible form. We do appreciate that we are not all experts in English Grammar, however, it would be preferable if there was some use of capital letters and punctuation marks within your posts.

Posting only in capital letters is deemed as shouting, and we would ask you to refrain from doing this.

Also, please avoid the use of Text Talk. For those of you who are not sure what Text Talk is, it's a form of shorthand used on mobile phones when sending text messages and during instant messaging.

With thanks,
Admin Team.



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